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Discarded from birth, forgotten by your own parents, raised by a fanatically religious hag, regularly bullied and beaten by fellow students, completely friendless, utterly isolated, your peers and strangers thinking you a total freak because of your appearance, staying the fuck away and always whispering about you, disallowed a normal childhood, physically abused at a place that's barely constitutes a real "home," a situation so bad that even the animals attack you.


Yo Brucie, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish, but...yeah, I'm sorry, you can go wipe your sodding tears with your rich daddy's money and suck a fat one.
Because Jonathan Crane has one of the most depressing, justifiably upsetting backstories and childhoods of all time.






Now, very, very rarely (if ever) do I consider fictional characters, let alone certain villains, as "poor babies," but seriously








Crane, you poor baby

oh my god I am so sorry

I know killing and revenge is wrong and all but holy shit your poor bastard
oh my god
why







why
  • Listening to: guess what i just finished reading
  • Reading: scarecrow: year one is now my fav batman comic
  • Watching: i finished this shit minutes ago
  • Playing: and I'm still depressed
  • Eating: favorite version of Scarecrow
  • Drinking: favorite Batman character, fuck it
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Lost-Angel27 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2012
Knew who you were talking about with only the first paragraph. :( Poor guy. I ADORED Scarecrow Year One because he always has been, and always will be, my favorite villain, but it was so fucking sad. :(
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012
The ending only poured salt on the wounds. :C
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Lost-Angel27 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012
I know. :( I try to imagine my own ending.
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AngryInsaneAmbulance Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2012
The only other origin that made me really depressed was Two Face's, mostly because Harvey genuinely seemed like a good guy until he got acid spewed all over his face. A lot of the crap that Batman's villains do are not exactly justifiable a lot of the time, but damn their lives really sucked to the point that you just wish Batman won't beat the up too badly.

By the way it's been a while, how's everything going for you?
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2012
I almost bought Scarecrow/Two-face: Year One but I wasn't entirely sure of the contents so I just bought the separate issues of Scarecrow: Year One instead.
Sucks, since Harvey was apparently like a sort of golden boy to Gotham.

Prettttty good so far, just busy so I don't have as much time for comics lately. How about you?
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AngryInsaneAmbulance Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2012
I know and since The Dark Knight was how I got into Batman every time I watch it now I go, "Fuck, Harvey,fuck...". I know some people consider Mr. Freeze to be particularly tragic, but I look at him and think, 'Well at least he had loved ones, even if she is cyrongenically frozen'.

I've been really busy trying to keep up with school and applying for universities. The break gave me some time to cool down, so it was good.
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Lezithian Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
If you actually think about it, Batman has a rather nice life even after the death of his two parentals.

Heck, you just revealed another person within the parents are dead and way worse list.

Lets see who else got on it:
Both parents murdered and was forced to live with two hateful relatives who force you to live in a closet and lied about your parent's death cause they thought you were an abomination- Harry Potter

Father murdered in battle and mother died while hiding infant to be raised by elves to later when pree teen to venture into the world alone and be forced to confront horrific beasts- Link

Ten year old who was thrown from home by their own mother who steals savings, thus is forced to find comfort within wild animals meanwhile trying to fight off gangsters, thieves all the while forced to buy overpriced meals to survive - Pokemon trainers (red/blue/yellow - gold/silver/crystal and remakes count)

Any Homestuck Kid...they had some pretty bad bad bad things happen to their families

Forced upon a foreign planet as only an infant into the strange wilderness, but by fate is rescued by an old man. The old man raises the strange child only to have the child wake up one morning to find that his GRANDFATHER was murdered by a wandering beast of the village, which he later discovers was himself. - Goku of dragonball
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Verdunstungska3lte Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
It's even more bitter when you think about the fact that he's quite often the chew toy for others; I've been on a Batman binge lately and the comics I've read so far with him just decide to rub more salt into the wounds.

I don't know if the writers just don't like him or say that if something bad has to happen, let it happen to the guy who has only some shitty toxin and dresses like a halloween prop.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
A part of me wonders if it has to do with him being a gawky mofo with a toxin as opposed to having some sort of superpower or muscle like a number of the other villains. Let's be honest, without that toxin he doesn't have a whole lot else save for the resilience and cunning of his own mind.
Ffffffffff.


Jonathan Crane: Forever a punching bag.
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Verdunstungska3lte Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
Well, they gave him the ability to mutate into a monster, but seeing how they never brought it up later they have probably forgotten it. But hey, it's not his fault if they can't think of new ways to utilize/interpret him in 70 years :<

On a semi-related note, you might like this: [link]
At least he got some fangirls through the movies, for better or worse. Probably the latter.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2012
Admittedly, I never cared for Cilian Murphy in the role of Scarecrow, tbh. Just...doesn't seem the type. He's a good actor, just not a Scarecrow and lacks the general bookishness and gawky, skinny figure of the character.

Okay, that's just too eerily uncanny. Like....too eerie. wonder if she's a fan...
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Verdunstungska3lte Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2012
I agree wholeheartly.
If I were in a position to find someone more visualy fitting, my first choice would be Bradford Cox of Deerhunter, even though he isn't actor: [link] [link]
Give him glasses and we're set.

Considering the topic, 'eerie' is fitting. If yes, kudos at her for pulling that kind of fan tribute.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2012
Holy shit, well I'll be damned if that isn't a living stickman. He ever has the proper hair color!
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Icyshadowlord Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
I'm surprised about the fact that I had forgotten Scarecrow's backstory up until I read this journal.
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Orsonfoe Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
The scarecrow, i like the symbol he /it is and the fear it crates. But that story just makes me feel more for the character and the symbol he is apart of. Batman has the best fillen cause they just bring more to the table. you hate them, love, feel sorry for them, and just dont know what to do with them.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
I actually really liked the Year One backstory because it added to his character imo. Basically, the whole idea that he was a gawkish, skinny unscary bookish man in reality underneath the whole "scare monster" persona. A man who basically turned to fear to strike back at the forces that terrified him despite being the guy whose ass got kicked on a regular basis.
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Orsonfoe Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
Not only that it help show just how much those torments can linger and effect us. He was left with that nut job of a women who took pleasure in tormenting him just to control him, and blames his parents. I know they where in fact to blame but i wonder if he ever had some form of thought about them ather to get payback. But more importantly with this year one story is how much our dear batman compares him self to scarecrow. I found that to pure gold. I never realy seen batman campaire himself to the people he fights. its usually (from my view) he in the thing against them and will always not be them.
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Yurbleyurble13 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
I'm guessing you read Scarecrow: Year One? Gah, I love that one ;w; Crane, the poor soul.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
Sad before I read it, sad when I read it, sad after I read it.
So much sad all over.
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Yurbleyurble13 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
Ahh, such an underrated rogue. Oh, and I saw what you said about him and Jervis being besties. I really agree.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
I know he and Hatter bickered like ninnies in The Long Halloween, but screw it. I've had friends I hung around where we pretty much bickered like idiots all the time so I don't see why not lol.
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Yurbleyurble13 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2012
Exactly; that's where all their chemistry is~ It's wonderful! I could just imagine Jonathan being driven up the wall constantly by Jervis, but they're still friends.
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ever-so-much Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
:mwahaha:
As a long time Crane fan, I let loose the most depraved cackle imaginable when I read this. One of us, one of us, one of us...
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
omg

"An Army of Scarecrows like me
Thousands of broken dreams
Thousands of tragedies
Tried to run from their destiny"


I REGRET NOTHING</sub>

I liked Crane even before Year One, but holy shit I have a feeling this will be my favorite Scarecrow comic (and maybe even favorite Batman backstory comic).
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Arlexim Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Student General Artist
Dude, Crane's life just...really sucks.
:iconcryforeverplz: God, I wouldn't blame anyone for being pissed/feeling wronged/wanting revenge if their life was that bad.
poor, poor Crane. I can't even adfghjkl
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
Although pointing a gun at a kid isn't really justifiable, but it still blows hard, man.
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CrazyAcornOMG Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
As strange as it is to say, I like villains that have the tortured past and background. Especially when it comes to very theatrical/dramatic characters like Crane, so that you can see just what drove him to that point to become as infamous as he is now.

But still OMFG. That's just... Oh God, the poor thing. :C
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
Villains with tortured backstories are pretty commonplace and popular.
Although I think some are done better than others. Some creators use it as a sort of half-assed, "my chara was abused as a kid so that makes it okay for them to do bad things and it's rly tragic and sad" whereas some use it as a way to add depth and reason to the antagonist's motives as opposed to just, "i do bad shit because I can."
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CrazyAcornOMG Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Argh, I hate that thin line. So dangerous to cross as a writer. ><
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BOOMpurple Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
I think anyone with dead parents had a bad childhood.
And belittling anybody's circumstances just because another person has worse is kind of sick.
"Fuck Your Dead Parents"? Really? That's very distasteful.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
Not saying Bruce's wasn't bad, nor would I actually THINK that of an actual person under those circumstances, but given that they're fictional works who never lived, I thought I'd joke around, especially given how the Batman"MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEAD" is a pretty common/overused meme/joke.
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Green-Glowstickz Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
Oh god, that arc horrified me. I mean, I loved the way the story was told, but geez.

That woman.
geez.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
If we're talking about a certain abusive grandmother then I mean





yeah


she sort of had that shit coming
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SMS00 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
Wow....just wow....interesting
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
mmmmmyep
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SirKaijuOfVaudeville Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Mr. Crane...Now I have more a reason to care and sympathize with you. ;A;
At least in the Killing Joke, Joker forgot his humiliation conga of a past, but damn, does everyone in Gotham have a fucked up backstory?

Of course it sounds similar to the main villain of Higurashi's Back-story, in terms of FUCKED Up child hoods and how he/she overcame it and is surprisingly similar to Mr. Cranes back story.... (the first sound novel came out in 2002, so I don't know if coincidence)...now I want to write a Batman/Higurashi fic dammit.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
but damn, does everyone in Gotham have a fucked up backstory?
If it doesn't have a fucked up backstory, it ain't Gotham.

I enjoyed the Killing Joke, but even I can only go so far with the "I'm crazy lolololol" thing. The whole, "i was a nice guy then I fell in a vat and instaneously got makeup and a fucked up mind" thing just seems.....eh, not really entirely satisfying (although Joker can be cool though, just not my total fave).

Write it and be the first one of the generation. I BET NO ONE ELSE HAS.
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SirKaijuOfVaudeville Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I took it as he was stressed to begin with, then his pregnant wife dies, does a job he isn't comfortable with anyway despite getting the news moments prior, the job is botched by Batman, he falls into Chemicals, his entire life ruined, and to top the humiliation off, he see's his permanently disfigured and dyed face. Besides Joker himself said he can't remember his backstory, so that might not be true. All anyone knows is that he had "One Bad Day" and went insane. So take the story as you will.

:iconiseewhatudidthereplz: Don't know if srs or sarcastic, since EVERYTHING has been done already... Of course, I drew a Higurashi/Slenderman pic, and that wasn't done before, so it isn't entirely true....
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
Oh, I know all that. But still. He's an interesting foil to Batsy and all, just not my Bat-villain of choice. Although he did say he liked his past to be "multiple-choice" and I've seen a number of people argue about Killing Joke's Joker backstory canon.

Ohh, I was slightly joking but also of the mind that if you want to do it, then go for it. Especially since I doubt many fics of that nature already exist. Who knows, it could be a hit. :U
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SirKaijuOfVaudeville Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I prefer the Joker's backstory to be unknown personally. Heath Ledger's Joker was a lot more threatening because he was almost this anonymous face of anarchy, he was psychotic and there was no backstory to him, which made him almost like anarchy personified. And for the Joker in general I prefer him to be unexplained, a mysterious result of Gotham and fate's obstacle for the Bat. an obstacle Batman cannot overcome.

Yeah, while they may be one out there, I doubt there is a really good one out there. If I do write it's probably going to be a oneshot of Batman saving the day at the end of Matsuribayashi, and a kicker/hook with Dr. Crane at the end.
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Arcaiirulesall Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Jonathan Craaaaaaaane :iconiluplz:
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rauj13 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
I wonder if that backstory is still canon...
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
I honestly don't care if it is or isn't. So far, it seems like it is and so much stuff gets retconned or changed/ignored in these vast universes, I can't really be bothered to care. Still one of the best I've read.
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rauj13 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
I don't care so much if it is or isn't, it's just a curiosity thing. So much shit is in the air right now it's ridiculous. I just hope that DC had the good sense to keep it as part of the New 52. I really doubt someone is going to come up with a better backstory in the new universe.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
I'm not really sure if I'll be getting into the New 52 anytime soon. What I've seen and heard so far seems utterly horrific. Seeing what they did to their already existing characters....well, I highly doubt it. But even so, I'll just keep Scarecrow: Year One immortalized in my mind the way it is, whatever happens (I learned to ignore certain bombastically horribly-written canons I didn't like after F.E.A.R. went to shit).
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Lexenos Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
IIIIIiiiiiii almost thought you were talking about Harry Potter. Clearly I need to stop watching so much Potter Puppet Pals.

But seriously. I hate pissing contests and all, but people need to stop forgetting that shit could be so much worse. I fought with my parents a lot, but I was never abused like some of the stories I hear. (Like how I want to kill my friend's dad for blaming his alcoholism on her.)

/a point really close to home
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
A lot of young protags have the fashionable dead parent thing going for them these days.

I know they could, but while Scarecrow may have been off the deep end a bit and murderous retribution isn't exactly the most righteous method of dealing with your inner turmoil, I can at least honestly get why he's fucked up. Yeah, his killings weren't totally justified, but unlike Bruce, he grew up under an abusive, financially lacking environment with an (physically, emotionally, and mentally) abusive religious zealot and pretty much no real moral support save for maybe one person who let him down. Bruce, on the other hand, gets mommy and daddie's resources, and kind parental figures to lean back on in Alfred and Lucius.
Yeah, watching your parents get gunned down in an alley sucks ass, and it's great he turned that tragedy into a way to save others, but my heart goes out to Scarecrow on this one.
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rauj13 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
No, clearly you don't read enough Batman.
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Lexenos Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
Clearly, of course.
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XoverLover Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Trololol, I wasn't sure what character you were talking about for a while. Bits and pieces of that above (and even the whole chunk if you mean it as a metaphor) fit so many heroes and villians in so many fandoms. xD
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