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If there are two things I don't understand with fandoms it's when:
1) People say "so-and-so doesn't get enough love" or "this character could use more attention" when it's actually one of the most popular characters in the fandom and you can find at least six billion pieces of fanart or material related to said character by doing one search alone.

2) People think they're "special" or "just weird like that ^__^" for liking 'psycho' characters. The "lol yea im sort of different becuz my fetish is crazy guys/chicks/characters and i guess that makes me strange lolol xD" variety.
Because seeing at least ten million characters, original or established, with the same 'tude grin, blood-covered mouth, goffick or scene attire, and "i-will-lick-this-bloody-knife-to-show-how-hardcore-i-am" generic anime "crazy person" pose is something you'd never find in a million years.



Actually, no. I do understand. I just think it's dumb.



That is all.


Edit: To prevent misunderstanding, that's not to say there are no "good" or "well-done" insane characters or that it's necessarily a bad thing to like them (I've liked a few myself). But to assume that it's a "rare" or "unique" thing to like them is just silly.
Edit: Since some also touched on this, people who use both 1) and 2) to gain attention or sympathy. Ex. "this character doesn't get enough love and im rly sad about it guys" when doing a search actually shows that their post is embedded within mountains of fanart or posts related to said character.
Edit: To add to the "insanity" thing, I don't think that every insane fictional character always has to have an illness that matches a real-life one 100 percent, but I do believe some creators/characters develop or flesh-out events or circumstances that lead up to the 'breakdown' better than others.
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pyangpyang Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
sobbing
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AnnaKlava Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I said this. I will say this again. The Zim fandom is absolutely notorious for this shit.

And fandom characters are not alone. Actually, the only way you get anyone to look at your character is if they dress a certain way or have a killer history. Lolwat. People want to see carbon copies of NNY, or personalities of him in the least. That shit sells like hotcakes back where I'm at. And I don't know why I stick around there, I just do, I've been there since 2003-2004. There were still idiots running around, but now because Gir became overrated, well... look what happened. I don't want to sound like "OH THE GOLDEN AGES. THE GOOD OLE DAYS, THAT'S WHEN WE WERE COOLASS AND NONE OF THESE BRATS WERE EVER HERE.11" but to be honest, I was one of these fanbrats back then, most of these horrible fanbrats grow the fuck up and move on, or progress and move on.

I think I've seen enough of the killer irken crap already. I'm fine with normal shit, or something like that. Somehow the least thought out characters with 'edgy' personalities get toppled over by teeny-bopper to young 13-16 year old Zim fans. I rest my old fag case.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2011
Speaking of Nny....I own a copy of JTHM and all, I've read the book/comic, etc. but I think a number of people put Johnny (as a character) on a higher pedestal than he needs to be. Don't get me wrong, the work is funny and has its insightful moments, but with Nny it felt too much like the mind of an overly-angsty, overly-analytical high schooler despite the fact the man is somewhere in his 20s. Heck, I've even seen people say things like, "omg JTHM is such a deep and meaningful work and ppl like YOU are too dumb to understand that lolololz" (not -me- specifically, but in general).
It's like, "you're a 20-something-year-old man-teen that snaps and kills everyone on the street who wrongs him and has incessant screaming fits because fuck how cruel society is, okay, we got it."
Might've digressed from the psycho-fandom topic a bit there, but anywho...

Having murderous or "killer" characters isn't necessarily a bad thing. But giving how so many of them are (shallowly) executed and how common they are, that sort of removes any extra "edge" or "darkness" they hoped the character would have imo. Especially if they're dressed like scene kids or ravers or something.
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AnnaKlava Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
This this this! Nny is really nothing special. I used to think he was cool when I was 13/14 but he really is nothing special. He's just a wordy high vocabulary speaking guy who ...Well just as you put it. Over analytic disturbed goth guy with

It only looks deep on the surface because people over analyze it themselves. They aren't seeing past the big words and don't understand that Jhonen is actually writing a huge satire on his fans. They have noooo idea they're the butt of the jokes.

Yeah, they aren't bad, but everywhere you turn this site is just...laden with these archetypes. And dressing a killer in scene/goth/punk/hipster clothes just makes it all the more stereotypical and predictable.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2011
With, JTHM I wasn't sure if it was an exaggerated fictional representation of Jhonen himself or what, but I've seen him poke at goth subculture before so that actually does make a bit of sense lol.

how can u murder yor victims when they can see ur neon belts glowing a mile away in da dark
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AnnaKlava Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow I didn't finish my sentence there. I actually was distracted, sorry haha.

I dunno if it was a subtle personification of him, but I wouldn't doubt if it was.
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Fold39Crane Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I totally agree with you on the first point! Makes me want to shove a google page down their throats (or something less violent). However, there are times when I do fall madly in love with a character that I feel like they're not getting 'enough love'.. or more specially, enough 'appropriate' love. XD (you just can't search a character without something weird coming up)

For those second pointers... whenever I come across someone like that, I usually just brush them under a door mat and pretend they don't exist because they raise my eyebrows sometimes. Though, at the same time, generically, they are young hormone-raging, 'angst'-filled pre/teens and that category I definitely avoid. It's quite annoying how much people claim that they're special with some self-diagnosed illness (that is something I have a personal vendetta against). Not that no one is special (b/c everyone has merits they can be proud of), but the number of time I've heard those "I'm weird" statements drives me crazy. For me weird isn't "I love this crazy, BA guy; I'm weird; I'm going to doodle blood and gore; oh look at me, I'm weird and probably a bit psycho".
There are only two "weird"s in my world. The good weird: where your best friends practically dissembled your car seat as you go into the post office (gaw, I loved those days). And the bad weird: when you're so socially inept that you unintentionally stalked your crush of five frickin' years for an entire day even as they're hold you at a world's length away (not fun when you're on the receiving end, not fun at all).

gah, TL;DR, Ah, I'm tired (and lonely.. oh so lonely XD ), probably is why I'm ranting. ^^ Keep it up with your journals~ I love reading them ^^
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Ceriug Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2011  Student Artist
I'm a nutjob, people should worship me more.
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Kryione Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Well...........It's not like it'll ruin somebody's life or something,right?......I do think it's a little....eh.......delusional.....for ppl to write comments like that but I don't think it's a big deal,AT ALL....
.....So I don't exaggerate about it....................:)
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2011
I never said it was going to ruin somebody's life or that it was the biggest deal in the world. Just that it's rather overdone and exaggerated.
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