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Putting it up because I think it applies to a number of things.
In regards to this post: alexds1.tumblr.com/post/163302…
I think a number of things in regards to what the OP was saying were seriously taken out of context. I'm also going to say upfront that I don't really watch the Sherlock show, and, yes, I am fine with slash and femmeslash and all that on many occasions. That being said, I find their post, despite it being geared towards the SH fandom, to be incredibly applicable with a number of fandoms. While reading their post, I never once got the vibe the OP was saying anything remotely close to "slash is bad" or "asexuality is bad" or "you're not a real fan if you didn't read the original Holmes books." To be honest, I don't think they were even saying (or even implying), "you're a shitty fan if you like slashing these characters and you like porn of them."

Honestly, I think the main point of their post wasn't you're not a real fan if you enjoy porn or slash and you're a terrible human being. If anything, I think the main point was that so, so many people are caught up in pairings, the potential of romantic relationships between characters, sex, and general shipping arguments and debates about sexuality (that may not even exist) that, as a result, many people end up overlooking and even forgetting the point of Sherlock Holmes, the sheer magnificence of his intellect and deductive capabilities, and the world he inhabits in favor of tearing each other down in favor of arguing about
"no he loves irene
no he loves watson
no ur wrong he wants to fuck them both
no hes asexual it's so obvious
no theyre gonna have a threesome
no omg stop hes not gay stoppit"

I don't even -watch- SH and I've seen more arguments of this show up on my dash than I can care to count. Also, for those saying things like, "the OP clearly has an issue with slashing" or "the OP just doesn't want the fandom ruining SH with gay," I'm pretty sure the OP clearly stated and included that, "If you want to use this information to prove that Holmes is asexual, you are missing the entire goddamn point. He exists to illustrate the completely rational man: a human machine with only one function. Reading this and thinking about his sexuality is like reading Moby Dick and theorizing about the whale's sexuality." As in, it's not just about "the gay," you guys. The OP seems to be referring to the fanbase's shipping tendencies in general by mentioning asexuality, homosexuality, Irene addler's role as a "cut-and-paste" woman, etc. To single the OP out just for hating on slash seems a bit ridiculous imo.

The fact that people are automatically jumping on this person for this post and claiming "theyre just made because they dont like slash" or "they think shippers and porn will ruin their preshus fandom" only serves to reinforce what they were saying to begin with about people putting pairings, sex, and shipping above all else and responding with venom and anyone who says otherwise (and other fans), and is in itself highly problematic. You don't want to be viewed as "crazed shippers" yet how a number of people misread what the OP was saying and responded with anger, accusation, and venom only seems to demonstrate the opposite and how desperately and obsessively people get caught up in shipping and pairings to begin with.

Liking pairings isn't bad, and liking porn isn't necessarily bad. I mean, if you're turned on, you're turned on, and sometimes that can't really be helped. And a number of people can be shippers and like porn and still appreciate the intellectual and rich qualities of the works without regressing into bickering animals and turning supposed theories of sexuality into "srs business."
But at the same time, I can't help but agree with what's being said here, mostly because I find that what the OP was saying is all to easily applicable to so many fandoms out there. Basically, that people often get so caught up in fighting and analyzing and arguing over what pairings or romances may or may not be probable that they focus more on "which character is paired with which" or their status as "X character's boyfriend or Y character's girlfriend" rather than the character as a personality unto themselves and the many other fantastic elements of the universe inhabited by said character. It's no longer enjoying the characters for who they are or the fantastic world they inhabit for any fantastic elements they or it might contain. Instead, it becomes not appreciating a character for "who" they are and where they are, but instead for who they're paired with and their sexualities.

To sum up: There may be a slim chance that I'm wrong, but I don't believe it's necessarily slash and porn the OP has issues with so much as they're having issues with fans of the series putting "supposed" theories of sexuality and pairings over everything else and completely forgetting other aspects of Holme's character that don't have to do with shipping or sex. Basically, they spend far, far more time tearing each other down and arguing over sexuality and shipping far more than focusing on actual personalities, the universe, the setting, the deductive elements, etc. Basically, the things that help make so many fictional works unique to begin with.
But that's how I'm seeing it.
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AwesomebyAccident Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012
Stumbled across this by accident, and I have to say I agree with you word for word, and given what the OP said I agree on that to. I don't watch SH (my sister does, but I haven't had the chance yet), and while I am a fan of pairings and like to see them get together, what I really love is when the romance isn't blown completely out of proportion so that it ruins what I liked to begin with. With SH's case, I agree that if the main point of it is that Sherlock is a character who has an amazing intellect who isn't distracted by things like human contact, if he did it would deteriorate his character and make every episode about him score his various love interests, thus turning the show into an almost soap opera.

That's something I enjoy about my favorite show Fringe. While we've all know from episode one that Peter and Olivia are eventually going to get together they didn't 'get together' until the end of season three, and even then every episode wasn't about them having sex (this also has to do with the fact that Olivia had been replaced by her alternate self). But we're now in the middle of season four and while Peter still loves Olivia and tries to get home to her, he's not shacking it up with alt.Olivia in the mean time. The show is about him trying to save the world and if it wasn't it would loose its appeal.

For me, pairings are frosting on the cake. Cake is delicious on its own, but when you put frosting on its better, put too much frosting on and it can make you sick though, and if you don't like frosting (there are people out there who don't) its easily scraped off.
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invisible-chan Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
Oh my glob. Thank you so much for this. I absolutely loved the referenced post. It really pissed me off how many people completely missed the point of what was being said. Shipping is fun and all, but unless you're reading a romance novel or shojo, there is so much more to be found that who may or may not be fucking whom.
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Chrispy92 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Student Writer
What's worse for me is when fantards start warping the character to suit their own fantasies. I've seen it happen so many fu**ing times that its gone from funny to just downright depressing.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
For me, it really depends, honestly.
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Basata-sama Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
...While I do agree with what you in particular were saying, the author of the tumblr page DID kinda have a "If you never read the original books you're horrible" kind of thing going for the whole rant, including mentioning 'spoon-feeding' propaganda to people who watch the show or movies or the 'derivations' of the modern works based off the original materials, saying most people are just drawn to them because of the looks of the leading actors. That was... pretty much all I gained out of it aside from that link to the original stories. I can understand reasonable frustration with the fandumb, but her entire 'crutch', to quote her own usage, was the original novels, or as she said, 'canon works' that apparently people had to read if they wanted a more enriching experience and didn't want to rely on what was between their legs, apparently seeming to imply that they won't get a real out of experience out of anything BUT the books. I don't think all the missile-like anger aimed toward her is completely unwarranted, seeing that.
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MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with that, it's annoying when people only want to talk about a fandoms pairings and their "ultimate OTP 4 evars". And it kinda scares me when sometimes they are very extreme about it to the point they believe it's canon. o.o And I love Sherlock but I had no idea this stuff was going on. Wtf. I think his sharpness and dedication to his work is much more interesting a subject then who he wants to go out with. >.>
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Inarispellborn Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And then you have a book series where the only thing that matters for the plot is the pairing/shipping/getting pregnant from an undead fairy, aka twilight.
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FlamingSpartanWolf Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
1) How on earth did you get so good at writing these things? I love them to death...

2) I totally agree with you on this. Except for me, it's Sam and Dean from Supernatural. Two of my friends are so obsessed with them being incestual soul mates (one even coming up with qoutes to prove it), that I think they're just watching it for the prety faces. It's just kind of disappointing to see any work of art blwn over like that.
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RenDragonClaw Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This, in just about any media I have ever read that had anything resembling social interaction, it always sunk into yet another Freudian clusterfuck of who's shagging who. Never mind that there might be plot or themes or god forbid an actual message behind the story; they just want to turn everything into porn. Rule 34 aside the world of fiction is a tad bit deeper then just being smut factory of every fetish imaginable.

I never even read the series and I completely empathize with Holmes being a man dedicated to his craft over his social life. It's hard to relate to people when you think in several dimensions outside their day to day thoughts.
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Numbuh00 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to say that what first drew me to BBC's Sherlock was his amazing deductions and the elaborate crime plots. But I suppose after a while I became interested in other aspects as well (such as the characters' personalities and, yes, relationships). When I say "relationships", I don't necessarily mean the sexual kind, but all kinds of relationships (brotherly, friendship, etc.) Perhaps that's because relations between people always intrigued me and made the story and characters more likeable in my eyes (perhaps I could relate more that way, I don't know).

Now, I agree with you that some people are only interested in "omg, porn, yay" and I suppose that might annoy some people, but I think we should stop judging. "Ok, so you like this show for the pairings, I like it for the plot. That's fine, let's move on." I really don't have an issue with people only watching something for pairings or sexual stuff. It doesn't bother me and I never fully understood people that do get bothered by this (such as the author of that blog).

Although I did get the sense that he was even more upset about people not having read the original stories than the "shipping above everythign else" thing. I mean, it's a good thing to encourage people to read the originals (I admit I only read a few and it was quite some time ago, so I don't remember them well anymore), but perhaps he could do it in a nicer manner (one that doesn't quite bash the adaptations so much).

That being said, I also wanted to add that I never got people who say "omg, the fandom has ruined this series for me". How can a fandom ruin it for you? I mean, sure, there are going to be things you won't agree with some of the people who are also fans of it, but just because you see somebody's opinion (even if it's the opinion of the majority), it doesn't mean you have to hate the show because of that. I have seen people (in some of the fandoms I've been in in the past) almost kill each other over pairings (or other things), but I just didn't care and kept on enjoying the show.

And I don't know where the author was going when saying that they should've cast older and less-attractive (resenbling the original characters more) people. Because as far as I can remember, when Holmes and Watson met, they were about the age that the BBC show portrays them to be. And the cast isn't that attractive (at least not traditionally so). Personally, my first thought when I saw the show wasn't "omg, so hot". Although it's true that I do find them kinda attractive now, but that probably has more to do with the fact that I really like their personalities (of the actors as well as of the characters) and personality is something that always makes the person more attractive to me.

Ok, I don't want to make this even longer, it's long enough as it is.
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Ka-ness Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Filmographer
Eh, I think that people are attracted to shippings because of the speculation and the theories they can come up with. If the plot has some ambiguous moments, people are equally as interested to try to come up with theories for that stuff (omg Zelda theories lol). But for the most part, stories are pretty straight forward so it's not the biggest focus in fandoms. One can say "omg how they did this and this" in the story only so many times. However, human interaction is really subjective and interpretative and just really fun to think about lol...so I think that just naturally attracts people to think about that stuff.

That's how I personally view it though. I'm sure there are some facepalm worthy fans who just like stuff because the characters are hot.
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Ka-ness Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Filmographer
*"omg I like how they did this and this"
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Geeke-the-Freak Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
While I like to think that most people do have a deeper appreciation for a work's non-shipping merits, sometimes I remember this friend I used to have who, on one hand, claimed to be of superior intelligence than most because she was a Bioshock fan, but on the other hand literally only ever talked about ships and which ships would work or not work and never seemed interesting in anything unless it contained a ship she liked. That's about the time I stopped associating with the Bioshock fandom.
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Fold39Crane Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I actually am getting the vibe that the OP is more just frustrated with "derivations from original works" than the 'shipping before all else' fans. The fact that they kept throwing small snarky comments on the remakes and kept telling people to read the original novels sort of hinted that they have some bitter feelings about that. In which I have a beef with them about that.

Otherwise, I do agree with the OP on your terms. A character is more than who they may or may not want/is sleeping with and there are just some people who can't seem to break away from that idea.
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Winter-Scars Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Professional Writer
Thank heavens, someone finally understands.

I don't know anything about Sherlock Holmes, really. While I'm interested in reading the books, I have yet to find the time to. I've not seen the recent movies. But I have seen this fandom phenomenon -- fans getting so obscenely caught up in pairings that they no longer look at the actual work, per se, just the characters in the OTP. I'm guilty of occasionally looking at slash material in a few of my fandom circles, granted. That does not mean I believe it to be true. I look at it more as a sort of cutting-loose from the fiction, a sort of little break that, if done right, can be amusing. But I'm not a shipper, never have been and probably never will be. I don't understand becoming so utterly obsessed with one pairing that one becomes horrifically irate and indignant if another does not agree with one. It simply doesn't make sense to me.

Then again, I'm not a shipper, so perhaps I don't quite get their mindset, but… Still. It almost disturbs me. Hell, I'm a writer and I wonder about this sort of thing sometimes -- why is it so prevalent? I could say something quite cynical, but I won't. Perhaps it varies with each person. But the amount of sexuality in fandoms, both heterosexual and homosexual pairings, is baffling to me. Some fans even twist around the plot to fit their pairings. It is quite bizarre… I do agree with you each of your points, myself.
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Creationdestruction Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
While I do enjoy shipping from time-to-time, If the story in question is not romance-oriented, or if there is some sort of other purpose to the characters or themes or plot, then shipping will really be something I'd last want to debate, but most of the time people want to know about romantic couples/triples/etc. rather than the discussion of underlying messages, which is actually unfortunate. Trying to find a good conversation on some forum and ending up reading through endless shipping questions.

(Also, as a funny coincidence- I just left another discussion regarding the severity of poor fandoms, only to stumble upon your journal.)
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aniloveXIII Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
THIS. I'm guilty of being ship-happy, but you can't just focus on that and miss the entire point of a work!!
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syanta Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
A short while ago, I was rereading the D. Gray-man manga, and when I finished I started searching for some good fanfiction. I was very disappointed to find that 80% to 90% of all fanfiction was romantic/shipping focused.
Where were all the 'what if's, the action oriented, time-travel, etc? Sometimes it feels like the only thought on people's minds is sex and relationships. But maybe it's just too hard to write for most people (in case of fanfiction).
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CoconutMilkyway Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student
i dont rly hav nny arguments or constructiv criticism 4 dis but all i kno is if i c 1 mor piece of sherlok fanart on mii dash im gonna stab a bitch
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
dude
u and me both
i keep seeing the gifs every fucking where man

and im sorry, but cumberbumbling looks like a skinnier, creepier version of cillian murphy
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CoconutMilkyway Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student
IKR FUCK
its lik wher did it even com from all of a sudden it explodid
lik a river of bloody diarrhea

idk who dat iz but im assumin itz sherlok in which i wil agree with you
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
yup i think thats the guy

everyones screaming and crying about sherlock jumping off a roof or sum shit and im just sitting here like
okay
okay then
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CoconutMilkyway Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Student
i feel like i know the entire plot and characters of the show just because of the stuff that comes up on my dash
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Ryujikin Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
I think another reason why pairings in this fandom are so lauded is that many sunshine-watchers (that is, people who watch for the superfluous entertainment rather than the plot) have no desire to plunge deeper into that intensely intellectual character that is Sherlock Holmes. While intelligence and rationality is prized in most societies, we have to admit that it's a gift, one that doesn't get passed around to everybody.

That being said, the disproportionate amount of intellect in Sherlock might seem intimidating to the average watcher/reader. Pairing him up with Watson or Irene or Lestrade etc. is, perhaps, an attempt to bring him down form that pedestal to a form that is more relatable, that of a sexual man interested in relationships. Given the media bombardment of today, it's no wonder that sexuality and shippings have such a raging grip on the younger generation that get so easily offended and indignant at the idea of holding to canon characterization. There's such a heavy emphasis on being intimate that anyone outside that social norm, especially fictional characters, must be dragged back into the status quo.

Unfortunately, Sherlock Holmes becomes the victim of many a horny teenage fangirl/boy more interested in cooing over the handsome cheekbones on Benedict Cumberbatch or Robert Downy Jr.'s dark brooding eyes than reading the beautiful diction in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's manuscripts. People really shouldn't be surprised, but the fact that we shouldn't be surprised is somewhat disappointing.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
I'm gonna have to pretty much agree with this analysis. Somewhat unfortunately.
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Kiyoko-chan Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
I don't have a tumblr so I'll just comment on your dA journal about the tumblr article.

Agree. Agree so much. I'm a huge fan of Sherlock BBC because I've read the original Sir Arthur Conan Doyle stories and I think that the writers masterfully incorporated those stories into a modern setting. I hate that a majority of the fandom hasn't even read the original stories and likes it only because "omg implied gay so hot" or whatever.

Fandoms... really ruin series I like. I don't really see what's so great about shipping fictional characters...? I mean, yeah, I'll say "I like Character X with Character Y, I'm not so much a fan of Character X with Character Z" but I understand that that's just my personal preference, and my tastes are not omgcanonbecausesubtext.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
I remember there being another older Sherlock series (or maybe several, can't really recall) where Sherlock had a sharper nose and had a different build from Cumberbatch, but I can't remember what it was or when it originally came out. I just remember watching reruns a few times, but he did a hell of a lot more deducing than Downy's action hero version.

If they think Holmes/Watson if hot, then power to them. But people fighting over it as much as they have lately? (I think even some stuff Moffat said added to the fire). It's just ridiculous.

I think some people can ship without getting crazy while others feel the need to kill and overwhelm everything with it. Seriously, I don't even know anymore.
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Kiyoko-chan Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Yeah, I've seen a few of the older adaptations. I'm not really a fan of the Robert Downey Jr. version because... there really isn't much sleuthing going on in that at all. It's just a lot of fancy action sequences. Where is the sexy logic?

Just. I dunno. Avoiding fandoms because certain fans can't seem to understand that in the end, all of it is fictional. orz I don't understand why shipping is one of the issues that makes people the most crazy, out of all things, when there are so many other pointless controversial things to argue about that don't involve who's making out with who.
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icy-kisses Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I think it's stupid how people can get so worked up and obsess over something that doesn't even exist; this applies to a lot of games, movies, books whatev. I know this one girl who's so heavily into RP that the 'pairing' she has is the only pairing possible; she wants and wishes that another person involved in this RP universe would die or just drop off the face of the earth. Those are her exact words. :/
She lives and breathes this pairing so much that her whole life basically revolves around it and it literally scares me. You can't tell her that she needs help - because she does - because you'd be a bad person and you don't understand her.

...not that any of this was related I just woke up and felt the need to type some half-garbled whatever. :3
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
I can understand the fun of having "fan interpretations" and how people use their imaginations to explore or expand upon a world, which is totally fine.
But the lengths some people go to argue, debate, and lash out because of their super speshul (sometimes non-existent) otp or whatever is completely beyond me (to the point of being, "what? you mean there was an actual plot, world, and other characters and different facets of these people outside of my otp? THAT'S CRAZY."

I've never been much of an RP-er, but I think there's a term for people like her. I think "God-Modding" or something to that effect? If she wants everyone to "die" in her RP universe, maybe she was better off playing by herself to begin with.
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icy-kisses Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Sometimes you stumble on someone who really immerses themselves in the universe and it makes for brilliant reading or viewing of their art, but more often then not it's just eeurrgh. Do you understand where I'm coming from? XD I mean there are heaps of pairings that make sense but there are just some that are really.. obscure. Where the characters have never met or interacted more than passing the salt at a table
BUT HEY
THEY SHARED FOOD
THAT MAKES THEM AUTOMATICALLY SOULMATES AND THEY LUV EACH OTHER LIEK OMGG REGARDLESS OF ANY REASON OR LOGIC

Nah, not people to die in the RP universe, she has a deathwish for an actual person who RPs a pairing with the same character her character is paired with. It's.. worrying and just.. I can't understand. I get being attached to your pairings but God she takes it way too far.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
Oh yes, I've seen that before.
Lulz, that type of shipping is so common that I think I've seen more than a few people poke fun at the phenomena before (luckily, I think a lot of people can at least acknowledge the ridiculousness of it, even if they have been guilty of it at some point or another).

I seriously hope that person is like 15 or younger (not that that really helps much).
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icy-kisses Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, exactly. :)

....she's turning 20 this year, does that make you cry inside?
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012
dear lord yes
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Rinkinkeen Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
TL;DR version: SHERLOCK HOLMES ISN'T ABOUT GAY SEX.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
No, not exactly.
Reread it again.
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Rinkinkeen Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
*re-skims it*

Okay, new TL;DR version: PAIRINGS ARE NOT SERIOUS BUSINESS. GET OVER IT.

Did I get it right that time? :dummy:
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Ghetto-Blasphemer Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Not much of a shipper to begin with (maybe because romances are unappealing to me most of the time). I'm just in it to find a good story that does not look to dumb itself down.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Same. Sure, I've liked pairings before but I'll be far more invested if I like the story and setting a number of times (and I don't have to worry about having my heart supposedly crushed because SO-AND-SO DIDN'T END UP WITH SO-AND-SO."
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KatherosLibra Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've never gotten involved in any kind of debates on pairings...Never saw the point, to be honest. It's ridiculous to see the arguments people have over them.
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Demon-Dolphin Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah I totally agree. I think the Homestuck fandom is especially bad about this. I swear they get into the dumbest, most trivial fights about which 13 year old wants to kiss which other 13 year old. All the while missing the things that actually make it good (the worldbuilding, the humor, the intricate plot, ect.)

I mean don't get me wrong, I've been in other fandoms that are way too obsessed with shipping. But it seems like Homestuck is disproportionally bad when it comes to those things.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
If people want to look at troll porn for fun or ship things, then fine. But I have to agree. The thing is, it's not just "kids and fun." A lot of times many people in the HS fandom become far, far more attached to pairings and characters than humanly healthy and it shows. Apparently now there's a big debate over whether Dirk Strider is gay or not, with both sides being incredibly vehement to the point of rampant stupidity.

What's worse is the HS fandom consistently tries to play it off like, "oh, only HETALIA does that, we're all about FUN and ACCEPTANCE and creativity here!"
Don't even get me started on some of the John/Karkat vs Kanaya/Rose stuff.
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XoverLover Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't think the OP had beef against slash or anything of the sort. However, I also don't think that all who got offended were misguided.

Intentional or not, I felt there was a clear "you're not a true fan if you don't accept canon character relationships as gospel" tone to the OP's whole rant. I can see how some people would be bothered by that.

In my first cursory reading, it didn't sound like a "please stop caring so much about pairings and appreciate the core of the work as it is" rant. It sounded like a "I hate all your childish attempts to pair up characters not romantically involved in canon and for you to change my own / the canon notions of characters regarding sexuality." With a sidedish of "No one should ever give their own interpretation of a movie completely different but based on / derivative to a book I love, because you're all wrong."

The post definitely sounded upset, and I really don't understand why. Shipping has been part of fandoms for as long as they have existed, and we all know that hardly half of the members of any given fanbase are mature, intelligent minds. The OP is taking things WAY out of context.

Specially and most importantly considering that BOTH the most recent movies starring Jude Law and Robert Downey Jr., as well as the BBC series with Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman have HEAVY homosexual insinuations as part of their humor.

We know more than half the people who go see this movie have not read Sherlock Holmes (heck, I haven't read the novels, and one of the only useful thing in that person's post is the link to those works, because I could never get my hands on them on paper), so they're very unlikely to know that Sherlock was originally a gentleman and not a sarcastic prick. So their first lengthy exposure to the series is a movie/series that has little to nothing to do with the originals, where romance is, of course, going to be ranked into top priorities by Hollywood.

Is it really that surprising they're going overboard with shipping? Is it really worth getting mad over? I just can't get over the fact the OP is getting mad at people who discuss shipping on behalf of the original novel. Why do you get upset over the interpretation that people give to a work derivate and widely different from the original? And why would you try to make them stop by throwing the original canon in their faces?

I can understand the whole "we should stop caring so much about pairings and appreciate the series for what it tried to give us," but come on.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
To me, while the "you're a shit fan if you don't follow canon to a T" mindset is fairly common with some groups of people and I don't really agree with it, with this person I somewhat felt it was more them having a beef with others causing drama and blowing up arguments over relationships/sexualities that they didn't believe was present in the original works at all.

I don't really agree with "the source material is the only one that matters" viewpoint, but at the same time I can see where aggravation towards pairing drama can stem from, having seen it numerous times myself. Unlike the OP, I wouldn't go so far as to say the fans are "disrespecting the series" so much as just getting so far lost in drama that they end up letting things like sexuality obfuscate anything else that has to do with SH's character and acumen. I can sense the aggravation in the OP's post as well, but at the same time I can sort of see -why- they're upset, especially since another particular fandom I'm in happens to do something incredibly similar. In this case, I think it's more the OP getting upset because they believe by the fans attempting to break down sexuality and spending more time on shipping than the actual work, they're not appreciating it at the value they think it should be held out.

I think the OP's flaws may lie more with them focusing more on the original books and not taking in the subtext of the more recent films/shows and how younger people view them (or are shown them), but at the same time while I can acknowledge there are some points I don't entirely agree with, I can't bring myself to totally oppose their post, either. Especially given one work I follow pretty much had fans asking the creator "WILL THERE BE ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR THE SHIPPERS? HUH HUH HUH??? THROW US A BONE, YOU OWE US" and the person pretty much responded that they only do things for people who enjoy the story and characters for who they are and how it's played out, not who ends up with who.

I don't know. I'm not even seeing it as them trying to force all SH fans to stop shipping so much as wanting a cease to the drama that puts extreme precedence of shipping over all else and the stuff it's apparently blowing up judging by my dashboard right now.
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XoverLover Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I understand getting fed up of drama, come it from shipping or who likes what character better. In all honesty, I can very easily see how it can become frustrating. Shipping is always one of the main problems in every fandom, no matter what the series is actually about. And for something as popular as SH and with the slash undertones, of course it's going to flood everything.

And of course, I agree that the story and characters themselves are more important than any sort of shipping fantasies the fans might have. I guess the areas of the internet I hang out on have been thankfully devoid of any sort of shipping drama I can't avoid. Even in tumblr, I only see pictures when I go searching for them, they don't show up on my dash otherwise. So I could be acting a bit insensitive myself.

We're all guilty of having a beef with some aspects of our fandoms, so I'm not saying I hate this person for their post. They're on their right to complain, and of course they knew people were going to disagree or massively like when posted in the very site the OP is seeing this behavior.

I suppose that, while I might dislike rabid fans, and dislike them very much, I don't like the offended and dismissive attitude the OP gave the whole shipping issue. The fact people like to discuss shipping doesn't mean its the only thing they see in a work, its just what they like discussing sometimes. I discuss non-canon and canon pairings of my favorite fandoms as often as I discuss the characterization and the flow of the story, or what messages the thing left me. But not everyone enjoys going into too much depth about a series, and thus stick to what is simple and fun: shipping. It's as fair a way of escaping reality as sticking to enjoying the canon.
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yahtzeefan Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
For me, pairings are just something you should take for face value and that's it. Getting into a debated discussion about it is just stupid as far as I'm concerned.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
I think some people get way, way more invested in that than they should. Especially with certain elements of characters that may or may not even exist. Hell, I've seen people get into heated arguments over humanized MLP characters and what races they supposedly "should" or "shouldn't" be.
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yahtzeefan Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Oh christ gag me with a spoon.

Also, went back and bought the original F.E.A.R. back December. What a great game. Still kinda prefer Project Origin, though.
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In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Apparently now it's also a thing to assign the ponies religions now(at least, I know I've seen arguments over whether they could be Muslim, Christian, or non-religious before)?
Honestly, I don't watch MLP so I have no clue.

I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Ah well, guess we all got different tastes.
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